When Is Physical Israel Saved?
Hi Mike,
1) When does Eze 16:55 happen? Are they the great army of Eze 37:10 that Satan gathers in Rev 20:8 or are Sodom and Samaria raised just for judgement?
2) Who are the heathen of Eze 37:28?
3) Does Andrew Jukes believe in a Gap theory? It appears he feels Exo 20:11 starts at Gen 1:3 and not 1:1. I bought all seven books I could find by him online. Do you recommend all his books?Thanks,
M____
Hi M____,
Thank you for your questions.
Your first question is:
1) When does Eze 16:55 happen? Are they the great army of Eze 37:10 that Satan gathers in Rev 20:8 or are Sodom and Samaria raised just for judgment?
The answer is, yes, Sodom and Samaria and physical Israel of Ezekiel 37 are all raised after the millennium and after the “short season” in which Satan deceives the nations.
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
But the “great army” of Rev 20:8 is gathered before the “fire comes down from God out of heaven,” which event occurs before the great white throne judgment which encompass the events of Eze 37 (“valley of dry bones… the whole house of Israel”) and Eze 16:55 (Israel will be saved when Sodom and Samaria are to be saved in the lake of fire).
What just happens to be revealed in the very next verse of Rev 20?
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
And what happens next?
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [ are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever [ eons of the eons].
Who is in this lake of fire?
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [ the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
“The dead small and great… the sea [ of mankind]… death and hell… and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” That includes all the dead of all time. The only exclusion is those whose names were in the book of life. They had been resurrected one thousand years earlier, so they would be in place to judge all the rest of mankind, including Sodom, Samarian and lost physical Israel of Eze 37:
Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their [ Israel’s] unbelief:
Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
When do we show mercy to physical Israel, through whose unbelief we have believed? We need not guess:
Eze 16:55 When thy sisters, Sodom and her daughters, shall return to their former estate, and Samaria and her daughters shall return to their former estate, then thou and thy daughters shall return to your former estate.
Eze 37 is when all Israel is saved:
Eze 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
Just when is that? It is when “the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled;”
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
When “the fulness of the Gentiles be come in then… all Israel shall be saved.” Exactly when does “the fulness of the Gentiles come in?” Here again, is what the scriptures teach.
Eze 16:55 When thy sisters, Sodom and her daughters, shall return to their former estate, and Samaria and her daughters shall return to their former estate, then thou and thy daughters shall return to your former estate.
Here is a scripture that gives the lie to two orthodox Christian doctrines. The first is the doctrine that physical Jews are still God’s chosen people. The second lie is that Sodom is at this very moment in eternal hell fire with no hope of ever being saved.
The whole Christian world ignores scripture to cling to these “idols of the heart”, which “idols of the heart” Ezekiel referred to just two chapters earlier.
Eze 14:7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself:
Eze 14:8 And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I [ am] the LORD.
Eze 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
Those who place scripture above church doctrine believe this verse here in Ezekiel and many other verses in the New Testament which confirm Ezekiel’s doctrine that Israel will be saved when Sodom and Samaria are saved.
On the other hand, those who place church doctrine above God’s Word have “separated themselves from Me and have set up idols of the heart.” Here are but a couple such verses in the New Testament which confirm Ezekiel’s doctrine that Sodom and Samaria will be saved:
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
“He is NOT a Jew which is one outwardly…” Show me one orthodox Christian minister who believes that Word of God. There is not one. If he believed it, then he would not be orthodox. The orthodox Christians would label him a “replacement theologian.” Of course that would put Him in good company with men like Paul and John who recognized that physical descent no longer entered into the spiritual equation of God’s Word:
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
“We, brethren” is addressed to Gentile Galatians. Paul continues this message throughout this book of Galatians.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
He concludes with this word:
Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
Gal 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
All that matters “in Christ Jesus” is “a new creature.” Here are a couple of other translations of verse 16:
Gal 6:16 Peace and mercy will come to rest on all those who conform to this principle. They are the Israel of God. (GW)
Gal 6:16 All who walk by this standard are the true Israel of God— his chosen people. Peace and mercy on them! (MSG)
Israel is now this “new creature.” It is no longer a physical nation, in the eyes of God.
All of this is dealt with in After The Counsel of His Own Will. Here is the URL: http:// iswasandwillbe. com/ sovereignty. php
Your next question is:
2) Who are the heathen of Eze 37:28?
Here is that verse:
Eze 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Eze 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
The answer is that the “heathen” of Eze 38:12 are all nations. Many translations say “the nations” instead of the heathen. The Hebrew word translated ‘heathen’ in that verse is ‘goy.’ It is the same Hebrew word translated ‘nation’ in this verse:
Exo 32:10 Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them [ Israel], and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation [ goy].
In this verse, God is threatening to destroy Israel and make a ‘goy’ of Moses. The word ‘goy’ simply means nation, and the physical ‘goy’ or nation of Israel, will be brought to God, and God will “tabernacle with them” just as He will with “the heathen.” In other words, Eze 37:28 complements Eze 16:55. They do not contradict. God will tabernacle with all Israel when He tabernacles with Sodom and Samaria. That is the goal of God’s whole plan and purpose; to be in all men:
Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [ are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
God has to blind us all at first for these clear statements to be overlooked. And when God blinds someone there is nothing you or I can do about it. The nations are all blinded by God. He himself has sent an evil spirit to be a lying spirit in the mouths of all of Babylon’s prophets:
2Ch 18:21 And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so .
2Ch 18:22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
Your next question was:
3) Does Andrew Jukes believe in a Gap theory? It appears he feels Exo 20:11 starts at Gen 1:3 and not 1:1.
Yes, sadly what you say is true. Andrew Jukes did believe in the gap theory. His book The Names of God reveals that he also believed in the trinity. His letters also reveal that he believed in the immortality of our spirits. And of course, with all of his insight into spiritual matters, Andrew Jukes was never given the ability to see that Israel is a spiritual entity, and that a physical Jew “is not a Jew.”
Do I recommend all of his books? I can honestly say that I have learned much from Andrew Jukes’ Types In Genesis, The Law of The Offerings, The Restitution of All Things and The Four Views of Christ. But what I recommend to anyone and everyone, whether reading my writings or the writings of Andrew Jukes or anyone else, is “try the spirits to see whether they are of God.”
1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
I hope this has answered your questions. I hope you can see that physical Israel is but one of “all nations” which will be resurrected in spiritual bodies after the millennium to be judged and purged of all their “wood, hay and stubble,” so that God can “tabernacle with men.” It is a wonderful future for mankind:
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Your brother in Christ,
Mike
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