The King of Tyre and Our Flesh
Hello Mike,
I have a follow up question if you have time: The orthodox teaching that Isa 14 refers to Satan is in error, because we are told in verse 4 that it is actually referring to the king of Babylon. The orthodox teaching that Ezekiel 28 refers to Satan is equally in error, because we are told in that chapter that it is addressed to the king of Tyre. Both of these men die and go to their graves. They say in their hearts that they will be like God, but they will be brought down to their graves.
Ezekiel 28:2 is addressed to “the prince of Tyre”. That first section of the chapter seems to conclude with verse 10.
The next section of the chapter starts with verse 11. And that portion is addressed to “the king of Tyre”.
How do you know that the king of Tyre refers to the same person as the prince of Tyre?
Also verse 15 says of the king of Tyre – “You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you.”
Do you believe that a human being was created perfect from the day he was created? Or do you believe that this “man” was born sinful as the rest of Adam’s decendents seem to have been born? For example, David saying – “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin did my mother conceive me” (Psa 51:5
Thank you mike and God be with you!! J____
Hi J____,
It is good to hear from you.
You ask two questions I will pose the questions and then comment. The first question is :
How do you know that the king of Tyre refers to the same person as the prince of Tyre?
Comment:
The Hebrew word for ‘prince’ is
H5057
na gi yd na gid
naw- gheed’, naw- gheed’
From H5046; a commander (as occupying the front), civil, military or religious; generally (abstract plural), honorable themes: – captain, chief, excellent thing, (chief) governor, leader, noble, prince, (chief) ruler.
The Hebrew for ‘king’ is:
H4428
melek
meh’- lek
From H4427; a king: – king , royal.
The way I know they are the same person is that they are both ruling over the same place, Tyre. All Kings are princes before they become kings.
Your next question is:
“Also verse 15 says of the king of Tyre – “You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you.”
Do you believe that a human being was created perfect from the day he was created? Or do you believe that this “man” was born sinful as the rest of Adam’s descendants seem to have been born?”
Comment:
“Perfect in your ways” is a long way from saying ‘perfect in my ways.’ The king of Tyre was certainly not perfect in God’s ways. Here is how the king of Tyre was ‘perfect:’
Eze 15:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 15:2 Son of man, What is the vine tree more than any tree, or than a branch which is among the trees of the forest?
Eze 15:3 Shall wood be taken thereof to do any work? or will men take a pin of it to hang any vessel thereon?
Eze 15:4 Behold, it is cast into the fire for fuel; the fire devoureth both the ends of it, and the midst of it is burned. Is it meet for any work?
Eze 15:5 Behold, when it was whole,i t was meet for no work: how much less shall it be meet yet for any work, when the fire hath devoured it, and it is burned?
Do you see that word ‘whole?’ “When it was whole, it was meet for no work: how much less shall it be meet for any work, when the fire hath devoured it and it is burned?” That word whole is the exact same Hebrew word that is translated ‘perfect in Ezekiel 28:15. The Hebrew word is…
H8549
ta mi ym
taw- meem’
From H8552; entire (literally, figuratively or morally); also (as noun) integrity, truth: – without blemish, complete, full, perfect, sincerely (- ity), sound, without spot, undefiled, upright (- ly), whole.
All of the lambs which were sacrificed were also ‘perfect’ lambs. But it is not possible that the blood of a perfect lamb can take away the sins of the world. Neither is it possible that the king of Tyre is not also “marred in the hand of the Potter.”
Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it
The King of Tyre was definitely not any less “shapen in iniquity or conceived in sin” than was King David. “When he was “whole,” when he was ta mi ym, when he was ‘perfect,’ the King of Tyre was unfit for the kingdom of God:
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
When it was whole[ Hebrew- ta mi ym] , i t [ the King Of Tyre] was meet for no work: how much less shall it be meet yet for any work, when the fire hath devoured it, and it is burned?
The king of Tyre is dead and gone in the outward sense. All flesh and blood is slated for destruction. What we need to know is that the ‘King of Tyre’ is alive and well in every one of us today if we are not dying daily to the pulls of our flesh. That is why these chapters are here in God’s word. It is Mike Vinson who tends to “exalt himself to heaven.” This is not a history lesson. It is “written for our admonition…”
1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
It is written and it happened to them for us.
I hope you can see that the ‘perfection’ of the king of Tyre is no more glorious than the perfection of a lamb or the wood of a vine. It is perfect for what it is designed to be, a “marred vessel” in need of a savior.
Mike
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