I have just read your article on the trinity.  Do you have any other articles or references that talk about this same subject/ view point?  I have been a Christian for the past 30 years, and the church the Lord placed me in from the beginning (Worldwide Church Of God) taught that the Holy Spirit was the power/ essence of God not a trinity but two beings. Only in the past 10 years has the church  (WCG) changed and tried to teach about the trinity.
One thing that I do want to ask did Christ always exist from eternity or was He created by the Father? The OT and Jews always had the understanding that there was only one God, not two beings, even though Gen 1:26 gave them a challenge with that viewpoint.

Thank You very Much
D____

P. S. I have enjoyed reading your other articles and much to my surprise, what I have read and understood has been thoughts I have been having for the past year.  The Lord has been leading me down some interesting roads these past few years doctrinally. I guess that is what happens after being broken by the Lord for the past 7 years. 

Good morning D____,
I am so pleased that you are being edified by what you are reading on iswasandwillbe. com.

I came out of the World Wide Church Of God back in 1973. I guess it was about ten years ago, I got a call from the local WCG minister in my area. I was totally unaware that there was even a church here is this area. Turned out there was a church in Buford, Georgia, and the minister of that church happened to be a former Ambassador College classmate of mine.
He asked me to meet him at a local restaurant to renew old acquaintances. While meeting with him I asked him about the rumor I had heard that the WCG was going back to teaching the doctrine of the trinity, and I expressed my incredulity at how that was possible in light of what we both knew to be in God’s Word on that subject:

1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

There it is. It a simple straight forward truth; “There is but one God, the Father.” Now what comes of that one God? Here is the simple answer to that question: “Of whom are all things.” And by what means did this “one God, the Father, have all things been brought into physical existence? “One Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things.”

You ask me:

One thing that I do want to ask, Did Christ always exist from eternity or was He created by the Father?

And the scriptural answer is that “all things are of one God the Father.” What was the very beginning of the Father’s creation?

Rev 3:14  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

There is the answer to your question. Christ is “the beginning of God’s creation.” Why was Christ the first thing God created?

Col 1:15  Who [ Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: [“The beginning of the creation of God.” No “image’ is the reality. Yes, Christ is as real as you or I, but we are being “conformed to His image.” We certainly are not our head Christ, to whom we are being conformed, and Christ is not His own Father in whose image He is]
Col 1:16  For by him [ Christ] were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18  And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [ things] he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19  For it pleased [ the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell;

God the Father decided, before He ever created Christ, that Christ was to be His instrument for all the rest of His creation: “By Him all things consist… that in all things He [ Christ under His Father] might have preeminence.”
Here is another way of saying that:

Gen 41:40  Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.

It is “only in the throne” that the Father is greater than Christ. On this earth Christ is “the almighty God, and the everlasting Father.” But He Himself tells us that His Father has retained the “power of the throne” to Himself.

Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Christ, many times repeats that it is He who “Is, Was and Will Be.” Nowhere in all of scripture, does Christ ever claim to be without a beginning. To the contrary He confesses that He is the beginning of God’s creation, that His Father is greater than He, and that His Father is His God:

Rev 3:14  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Joh 14:28  Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
2Co 11:31  The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
Eph 1:3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [ places] in Christ:
Eph 4:6  One God and Father of all, who is above all[ Christ included], and through all, and in you all.
1Pe 1:3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ , which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Put all these verses together with 1 Corinthians  8 and the evidence is overwhelming that God created Christ to be the channel for His creation, just as Christ created Adam to typify the Father and Eve to typify Christ, the channel for all who would come after Adam:

1Co 11:8  For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
1Co 11:9  Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

The whole point of this discussion is that we must understand the order that God has placed in His creation as stated in the beginning of this chapter:

1Co 11:3  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [ is] the man; and the head of Christ [ is] God.

“I would have you know” means that it is essential for us to understand what is about to be said. But we need the sum of God’s Word on this subject. There is more to this than just understanding the order God has established. We also need to understand why He has given us this order:

1Co 11:10  For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
1Co 11:11  Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
1Co 11:12  For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.

As stated at the beginning of this chapter, a man’s head is Christ. Even so a woman’s head is Her husband. I didn’t write that. I am simply quoting it:

1Co 11:3  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Is Paul denying that Christ is the head of a woman also? How can anyone suggest such a thing when the same verse says that “the head of every man is Christ?”
If Christ is the head of the man and the man is following Christ, how then can a woman go wrong when she acknowledges that her husband who is following Christ is her head? That is the equivalent of a man saying that he can get to God while ignoring his Head, Christ. God wants us to acknowledge His way of ordering His household. No Presidential candidate would dare stand by these words, but all who will not do so are guilty of denying Christ:

Joh 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Mat 10:33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

I have written much on this subject. If you want to read more about the origins of this doctrine and its place in the doctrines of Babylon, just type the word ‘trinity’ into the search box at the upper right corner of iswasandwillbe. com and you will be given 56 entries on this subject. The doctrine of the trinity is the trunk of the tree of all the lies of the Adversary. Satan’s entire Babylonian structure depends on some form of this doctrine. Without this doctrine there is no basis for the doctrine of a triune man with an immortal soul.
I hope this helps you to see that the WCG at one time could see that God was not a trinity, but they never were able to see that “to us there is but one God, the Father, of who are all things, and [ besides this “one God of whom are all things” there is also] one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things…”

1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Your brother in Christ,
Mike