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Good morning D____,
This admitted opinion of God’s elect is not as new to your friend as she is leading you to believe. This was all in her original paper. She was even then convinced that we are all ‘fallen’ and simply in need of getting back to God. That is the false premise upon which all of her doctrines, and all the false doctrines of all of Babylon, are built. Even at that time she was convinced that God’s “breath of life,” which sustains all men and even ‘Rover,’ is the same as “Christ in you.” It is not. We are but dust sustained by that breath of God. We are not spirits having an earthly experience, we are dust being brought to a spiritual experience, and we are desperately in need of being “born again.” Without a new birth there is no new man. The “new man” is not inherently within the old man. Yet look at her assessment of where God is:

“I really believe there is a inner part of humanity that is yet unawakened. Wake up, the scriptures say. And some are waking up. We are realizing our oneness with God which allows us to extend love equally to our brothers and sisters and NOT compare. It’s that ELECT part WITHIN us that saves the body, the rest of us, it’s the chosen remnant part within us that teaches us our interconnectedness with everyone and all things because that is where the source of God lies.”

By saying “realizing our oneness with God which allows us to extend love equally to our brothers and sisters and not compare” she is denying the essential ability to recognize the voice of the true shepherd as opposed to the voice of a stranger, and she is denying that there is even any need to “try the spirits to see whether they are of God,” and she is denying that it is even of any significance that “many false prophets have gone out into the world.” She openly declares:
 “If I believe I’m right, it must mean the other person is wrong, and vice versa. Where is the oneness? Where is the equality?  Where is the love?”
Well, scripturally, here is where it is:

1Jn 5:2  By this we know that we l ove the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

But both of your friends prefer this doctrine, this spirit which has been tried and found wanting, known as “the gospel of inclusion” over “the commandments of God.” With this doctrine, they will never even see the need for being “separated from her brothers” and sisters in Christ, and being “hated of all men.” There is a reason why God’s elect are hated, and part of that reason is that God’s elect have indeed taken the birthright away from their brothers, just as Isaac took it from Ishmael, Jacob from Esau, and Joseph from Reuben, and now, in Christ, His elect have taken that blessing away from “those Jews which believed on Him.” It is really all by the ordination and working of all things after the counsel of His own will, but that will has predestinated God’s elect be separated from their own brothers in Abraham, who is a type of Christ.

Joh 8:31  Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Joh 8:32  And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Joh 8:37  I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
Joh 8:38  I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
Joh 8:39  They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Joh 8:40  But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

Joh 8:43  Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 8:44  Ye are of [ your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

I love both your friends, just as much as I love you, but unlike them, I cannot ignore heresy. Just look at how incapable of receiving Christ’s words are both of these women and millions of “Jews that believe on Him,’ (Read – Christians) just like them. Christ was speaking to this very spirit and doctrine when He spoke these words quoted above:

Joh 8:43  Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

So this is all a part of “God working all things after the counsel of His own will.” In other words, it is not their fault they “do not understand Christ’s speech.” It is simply the fact that, at this time, they ” cannot hear Christ’s word.” Look at what Christ said to these Jews which believed on Him:

Joh 8:32  And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Christ tells us all plainly that not only is it possible, it is essential that we ” Know the truth.” If we say that we cannot for sure “know whether what we are hearing is true, then we are, with our own mouth, proclaiming that there is no way we we can know for sure who is Christ, because Christ Himself said:

Joh 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

So if we proclaim that we cannot know truth then we are admitting that we do not know Christ.
Now compare our Lord’s words with her words which comport with her doctrine of inclusion:

 “If I believe I’m right, it must mean the other person is wrong, and vice versa. Where is the oneness? Where is the equality?  Where is the love?”

She simply “cannot hear these words:”

1Jn 5:2  By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

Christ came along and told the established church that He was the only way, that He was the Truth and that all who came before Him were thieves and robbers. Do you see “You are of your father the devil and the works of your father you will do,” in the doctrine of either lady? No, you do not because according to their doctrine of inclusion, those words of our Lord are words that are “divisive, and unloving,” and she sees no need to repeat those essential words of our Lord. It seems much more loving to say:

“It’s not about belonging to an elite group or not, it’s about shifting your energy to operate out of the “good portion”. 

‘It’s not about belonging to an elite group or not, it’s about shifting your energy to operate out of the “good portion”‘ If only Christ had taken that approach, He could easily have avoided being hated by the very “Jews which believed on Him.” If only Christ had had that attitude then “those Jews which believed on Him would never have wanted to kill Him, and He would never have had to separate Himself from His own Jewish brothers, and He certainly would never have told them “You are of your father the devil.” 
This whole “doctrine of inclusion” is straight out of “the bottomless pit,” which really is where the great red dragon resides within each of us. It invites heresy into the temple of God and turns the instruments of God’s temple over to those who have no right to eat at our altar. I doubt that either woman will be preaching on this verse any time soon:

Heb 13:10  We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

All who have ever placed obedience to God over false love of their brothers, and over the false doctrines of their brothers, have always been accused of “exalting themselves.”

Gen 37:2  These are the generations of Jacob. Joseph, being seventeen years old, was feeding the flock with his brethren; and the lad was with the sons of Bilhah, and with the sons of Zilpah, his father’s wives: and Joseph brought unto his father their evil report.

Gen 37:4  And when his brethren saw that their father loved him more than all his brethren, they hated him, and could not speak peaceably unto him.

Num 16:1  Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took [ men]:
Num 16:2  And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:
Num 16:3  And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, [ Ye take] too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?

“All the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?” How closely those words are to these words:

 “If I believe I’m right, it must mean the other person is wrong, and vice versa. Where is the oneness? Where is the equality?  Where is the love?”

Of course that is also what “those Jews that believed on Him,” said of Christ:

Joh 10:33  The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Joh 10:34  Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35  If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
 Joh 10:36  Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Can you say that you are a son of God? If you cannot say that, then it is because you are not yet a “son of God.” Not all who say they are, really are sons of God, but no one who cannot say that is a son of God at this time. All who would rather say ‘I can’t be so sure’ simply do not yet know Christ. We are judged out of our own mouth:

Luk 19:22  And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:

If there is no ‘us and them’ what do these verses mean?

Rom 11:30  For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Rom 11:31  Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
Rom 11:32  For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Rom 11:33  O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Your friend cannot get around this Biblical doctrine, so she simply plays it down with this concession:”

“Perhaps there are some who are awakening to the Christ mind before others who are helpers to those still sleeping…. these may be the saviors in Mt. Zion who help others awaken to the elect within themselves….”

It is presented as if salvation is simply an inward awakening “within themselves,” as if the Lord Himself is knocking on the door from “within,” while the scriptures tell us the exact opposite approach.

Jer 17:9  The heart [ within] is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Mat 19:17  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [ there is] none good but one, [ that is], God: but if thou wilt enter  into life, keep the commandments.

Rom 7:18  For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh, dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [ how] to perform that which is good I find not.
Rev 3:20  Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

While both women would no doubt concede that the flesh is our enemy, with the same tongue they speak about ‘greater conscience,’ and they constantly use the word ‘within’ and talk about universal salvation as if it were inherently within us all and only in need of being “awakened… within.”

“I see the “good portion” as that “elect” portion WITHIN US.”

The very fact that everything is presented by both of your friends and many millions of others who, like Oprah, feel that Christ is already within us all, and we simply need to be “awakened to that good portion” that is inherently within, explains why they do not see the need to be “separated from their brothers.” But whether that is realized at this time does not change the fact that only those who do see the need to “bring their father the evil report of their brothers,” will be grateful for their coat of many colors, which separates them from, and causes them to be hated by their brothers, who are also ‘the seed of Abraham.’  It is only God’s elect who refuse to hang that coat in the closet to avoid having to acknowledege that their Father has chosen them out of their brothers, and it is only those who ” know the Truth” and  are made willing to be “separated from their brothers,” who will receive the blessed and holy first resurrection.

Gen 49:26  The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
 Rev 20:6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

If that is all inclusive then there will be no one over whom to reign, but of course the first resurrection is not all inclusive.
Like it or not, the first resurrection is a resurrection of God’s blessed elect, who have been chosen to be the channel for His salvation to be given to the rest of mankind, “each in his own order.” But that will necessitate the burning out of this false ‘gospel of inclusion.’  The lake of fire is all inclusive. The first resurrection, on the other hand, is not all inclusive. The first resurrection is only for those who were willing to suffer the abuse of being separated from their brothers.
Our enemies really are within. But that is true both individually and corporately. It is not, as your friends want it to be, only within. It is both, and to be unable to see that is to not see Christ as Is, Was, And Will Be. And that is another missing dimension in this ‘gospel of inclusion’ doctrine. It is true that God loves all, and it is also true that He will not lose even one. But there is an order that was ordained before the world began, and salvation for all will be accomplished “each man in His own order.” For now that order dictates that there is a many, all- inclusive called, who see no need to “reject a heretic… put such a man out of your midst and turn him over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh… bid him not into your house, neither bid him godspeed.” But  that “each man in his own order” also dictates that there are a “few chosen” who are, in that order of things, so few that it is “as it was in the days of Noah and Lot.” God’s elect are so few and scattered that Christ concludes one of His parables with this assessment:

Luk 18:7  And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?

Luk 18:8  I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Those who are so willing to include everyone right now, before it is time to do so, would answer Christ, ‘Oh yes, He will find faith in millions or billions on earth.’ They simply have not been given eyes to see that we are admonished to reject heresy and “not let it in our spiritual house.”

2Jn 1:9  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11  For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

What a divisive statement, according to the gospel of inclusiveness.
 And yet the appeal is always to “love and oneness.”Here is her own assessment of such Christ’s doctrine of rejecting a heretic:

 “If I believe I’m right, it must mean the other person is wrong, and vice versa. Where is the oneness? Where is the equality?  Where is the love?”

This appeal to love and unity has worked very well for the Adversary for 2000 years, and it was this very doctrine that was so appealing even in the days of the apostles that the apostles ended up being kicked out of the very churches they had established.

2Ti 4:9  Do thy diligence to come shortly unto me:
2Ti 4:10  For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
 
2Ti 4:14  Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
2Ti 4:15  Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words.
2Ti 4:16  At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.
2Ti 4:17  Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and [ that] all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.

This appeal to love and unity is always made by those who cannot even define what it means to love your brothers. And the reason for that is t hey do not know what is the love of God or the love of the children of God. But the definition of both is one and the same, and it puts obedience to God ahead of false love and false unity. It really is better to be divided by the Truth than it is to be united in a lie.

1Jn 5:2  By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3  For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

So real “love of the children of God” acknowledges the need to remove leaven from our midst and reject fornicators and heretics and “turn them over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit might be saved in the day of the Lord.” True “love of the children of God” necessitates that we “try the spirits of every doctrine preached and see whether it is of God.” “By this we know that we love the children of God.”
All the thousands of pages and thousands of hours of radio and television with people like Oprah Winfrey, and ministers like Carlton Pearson, and all the Baptist ministers who teach ‘once in grace always in grace’; all of this notwithstanding, the true “love of the children of God is still known by 1Jn 5:2-3. True godly love will always be defined by obedience to God’s commandments, rather than unity in a lie. “Let God be true, but every man a liar.”

Rom 3:4  God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

And here is one of those commandments which they so hate and “cannot hear:”

Tit 3:10  A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Tit 3:11  Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

“Out of their own mouths” your friends have condemned themselves and have admitted that they cannot know the Truth and that ‘to claim to know the truth is unloving and divisive.’

 “If I believe I’m right, it must mean the other person is wrong, and vice versa. Where is the oneness? Where is the equality?  Where is the love?”

Lies were never intended to be equal with Christ’s words, and His words are “I am the Truth and Ye shall know the Truth…”
I hope and pray the Lord grants you to see the tremendous spiritual battle in which you are even now engaged, and I pray that He will give you ears to hear the voice of the true shepherd of the sheep, and not be deceived by those who speak of  “another Jesus” even as they deny that we can “know the Truth,” which Truth is the True Jesus.

Joh 10:14  I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
Joh 10:26  But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
2Co 11:4  For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

All three of theses principles are included in this Eastern, Gnostic, yet Agnostic ‘Gospel of Inclusion.’ It is “another gospel, another spirit, and it certainly presents us another Jesus” who would never say such ‘divisive words as these:

Mat 10:34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Mat 10:36  And a man’s foes [ shall be] they of his own household.
Mat 10:37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Mat 10:38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Mat 10:39  He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
Mat 10:40  He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Here is a list of letters with Tit 3:10  in them. Ask Steve Crook about the TOA e- sword modules. They allow you to place your cursor on any verse in e- sword, and find all the letters on iswasandwillbe. com which contain that verse. I hope you will take the time to read these letters. They will help you to see the desperate need for this verse in Titus and all the other verses which are considered divisive by those who prefer unity to truth.
Your Brother in the Christ,
Mike

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