When Are His Words Fulfilled?
Mike, Thank you for helping me see the reality behind these 2 teachings in Isa 14 and Eze 28. After being enlightened to this I started to study Rev chapter 12: 7-12 and was hoping you could help shed as much light as possible to verses 7 & 12. Verse 7 – Why and when is this happening? Verse 9 – When was he cast out? Verse 12 – His time is short? I can’t even begin to explain how helpful you are. Truly enlightening. I love seeing the truth. Thanks, M____
Good morning M____,
Thank you for your questions about Rev 12:7-12. Let’s look at those verses:
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
You ask:
“Verse 7 – Why and when is this happening? Verse 9 – When was he cast out? Verse 12 – His time is short?”
Verse 7 says, “There was war in heaven.” What in the world does that mean? You cannot hope to understand this prophecy if you don’t even understand what and where ‘heaven’ is. If you have not yet done so, read the paper entitled What and Where Is Heaven? on iswasandwillbe. com. Once you come to see that God dwells in His temple in heaven and that He dwells in His people you will understand that the war we are concerned about is within:
Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
So long as we cling to all of the false doctrines of an external heaven way ‘out there’ somewhere in the universe, this book continues to be “sealed with seven seals,” and ‘seven’ simply means that it is completely sealed, and we cannot even begin to see all the things beneath those seven seals which we are instructed and told that we must “keep.”
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
So “the time was at hand” 2,000 years ago for “the temple of God… which temple you, [ and I and the apostle John] are” to be “opened in heaven” and “read and heard and kept.”
Like all who are in Babylon, I read those words for fifty years and could not see what I was reading. “The temple of God was opened in heaven,” and I am that temple. It is almost as if the scriptures are saying that “the kingdom of God is within you” and sure enough:
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Christ is not denying that He will one day rule this physical world and all “the kingdoms of this world.” To the contrary we are told:
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
What Christ is saying when He tells us that “the kingdom of God is within you” is that those who will one day rule in that kingdom must first die to the flesh is this age. When we “die” to this life and this age, we are transported ” in the spirit“ into “the day of the Lord.” It is only in “the day of the Lord” that we can be judged.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
John had to look “behind me” simply because “in the spirit” he had already been through the judgment and the “sayings of the prophecy of this book,” and he could now look back behind him and see it all. John was in the next age in the spirit.
Luk 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world[ Greek, aion, age] marry, and are given in marriage:
Luk 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world [ aion, age], and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Luk 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
When is that resurrection? Most of us put everything off into the future and in so doing we deny that “the time is at hand” to “keep those things which are written therein.” “That aion,” that age and the resurrection from the dead” are here and now for the few elect of God. They “have passed from death unto life.”
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
1Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
If we reckon the resurrection only to be future, then that will be the only resurrection we will know. But if we consider ourselves to be dead and to be resurrected already, then we can and will “keep the sayings of the prophecy of this book” now, and we will be dead already and will therefore “not be hurt of the second death.”
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:11 Likewise r eckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
God’s elect are destined to rule the nations within and without for one thousand years. It is all symbolic, but it is both within and without or there will be no end to death. But there will be an end to death, and death will be destroyed. For that to happen, all flesh must first be destroyed:
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
“The last enemy to be destroyed is death” is, like every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God,” to be lived here and now, not there and then.
That “destruction of the flesh” is to be accomplished in God’s elect while still living in bodies of flesh, just as we are to count ourselves dead even as we live in this flesh:
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [ in the likeness] of [ his] resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
If we reckon ourselves to be dead then we have life. If we don’t reckon ourselves to be dead, then we do not have life.
That is the “war in the heavens” which is even now being waged in God’s elect as they are enduring the fiery trials of His judgment during the “Lord’s day” or the “day of the Lord,” the day of His fiery judgment on our lives.
1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that j udgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
Verse nine says:
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
If you have forgotten verse three of chapter one, then you will not get one thing out of this verse either. Satan is “in heaven,” and heaven is within you and me; within our hearts and minds. When He is cast into the bottomless pit, he is simply restrained within us, until the time of His release within us. As Jesus told us “The kingdom of God is within you.” It is all within.
You ask, “When was he cast out?” Satan is cast out when the man of sin is cast out. Have you never noticed the similarities between the man of sin and His father? Just look at what Christ said to “those Jews which believed on Him” but “could not receive his words:”
Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Joh 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christians who believe on Christ but cannot hear His word because His word has not place in them, are of their Father the devil. That just happens to be you and me at our appointed time.
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Those who endure God’s wrath while in this vessel of clay which we call flesh “will not be hurt of the second death.” Those who do not confess that they “were by nature children of wrath even as others,” will endure God’s wrath on their ungodliness later, in the lake of fire, the second death.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
When is Satan cast out of your heaven? He is cast out when you are no longer dominated by sin in your life. He is cast out when you pass from death to life. He is cast out when you love your brothers, and you love your brothers when you love God and keep His commandments. You love God when you keep His commandments. Do not say that you love your brother or God if you do not believe that you must keep the sayings of the prophecy of this book and do what Christ and His father say to do, and that means “every word.”
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
The commandments of God are not the ten commandments. The commandments are all of His sayings and precepts. Those are the words of our Lord Himself:
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
He repeats Himself:
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Christ does not want us doing all kinds of good works and claiming obedience when we do only 50 to 90 per cent of what He says to do. Christ demands whole- hearted obedience to “every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.”
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
The fire of God’s judgment burns out all the wood, hay and stubble of our lives. As those evil works are burned out, Satan is cast out of heaven, and Jesus Christ then takes up residence within His temple. But He will not be there with another:
Luk 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
King Saul is the Biblical type of our strong delusion that we are serving God even as we disobey his commands:
1Sa 15:17 And Samuel said, When thou wast little in thine own sight, wast thou not made the head of the tribes of Israel, and the LORD anointed thee king over Israel?
1Sa 15:18 And the LORD sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed.
1Sa 15:19 Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the LORD, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the LORD?
1Sa 15:20 And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the LORD, and have gone the way which the LORD sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites.
1Sa 15:21 But the people took of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice unto the LORD thy God in Gilgal.
1Sa 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD [ as great] delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
King Saul is each of us at our time. The sayings of the prophecy of this book show that we are all “little in our own eyes” when we first come to Christ. But our knowledge eventually puffs us up, and we “leave our first love” all the while claiming to be “rich and increased with goods and in need of nothing.”
“Let him that hath ears hear what the spirit says to the [ seven, the complete] church es.”
Rev 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
Rev 2:3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name’s sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.
Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Rev 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
“You [ and me and all of us] have left your first love” and done all the other sins of the seven churches, and all the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
If indeed we do “keep the sayings of the prophecy of this book” then we have not “added to or taken away [ anything] written therein.” And if that is the case, then we can trust in the truth of this warning:
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Your third question is “His time is short?” Yes, indeed, “His time is short.” that is the message of this entire book. “The time is at hand… these things must come to pass shortly… I come quickly…” etc.
Why is this so? For this very reason:
Jas 4:14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
“A little time” means that what is done must be done “quickly” and in a “short time.”
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [ it] by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Rev 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
Rev 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings [ are] faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
One of “the things that “must shortly be done” is Satan’s work in our lives after he is cast out of our heavens. He wants us to hate those who have been used of God to deceive us in so many ways. He has but “a short time” because our whole life amounts to nothing more than “a vapor which appears for a little while and then vanishes away.”
One more thing you need to begin to grasp is the character of all of these words. All of these words are but part of the revelation of Jesus Christ. Peter, Paul and John all learned what they knew of the gospel through “the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1Pe 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [ it] by his angel unto his servant John:
The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave to Christ is the same ‘revelation’ which Christ gives to each of us. The word ‘Christ’ simply means anointed. We, too, are anointed by God with Christ and given the revelation of Jesus Christ.
2Co 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
What do the scriptures tell us about Christ? They tell us that Christ is God’s Word:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
All things were made by “the Word of God,” Christ. Now here is what Christ teaches us about His words:
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Christ’s Words “are spirit,” and one more thing we are told is this:
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
So when Christ tells us “This generation shall not pass until all these things shall be fulfilled,” He is not talking about a passing generation. He is talking about the generation which happens to be hearing and listening to His words in any generation. His words do “not pass away.”
Coming to see the significance of this character of God’s Word prompted the name of the web site, iswasandwillbe. com. Christ declares so many times:
Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace [ be] unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
It is Christ who lives and was dead and is alive for evermore, and what is true of Him is true also of His Word.
What this means is that everything Christ is doing in us is ongoing and progressive. It is not an over- and- done- with Word. Christ and His Word are alive and working in us at all times. That is why we are told that, yes, we have died to the flesh, and yet we are dying daily. We are saved and “have passed from death unto life,” and yet we “shall be saved if we endure to the end.” We have come out of Babylon, and yet we are still struggling to shed the false doctrines which we thought we had long ago denounced.
Christ’s words, like Christ Himself, are, were and will be increasing in us as we decrease in Him:
Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Christ’s Words being what they are, I will be decreasing and He will be increasing so long as I am in this vessel of clay we know as flesh.
I hope you now see when the war in heaven happens, when Satan is cast out and why his time is short. I hope you are given eyes to see and ears to hear what the spirit is saying to all seven churches, and I hope you see that the kingdom of heaven and heaven itself is within you and the gospel of that kingdom is being lived out within each of us.
Finally I hope you see that all of God’s words are the revelation of Jesus Christ which is, was, and will be lived out within us every day so long as we are in this flesh.
Your brother in Christ,
Mike
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