Hi Mike,

Thanks again for your time. I hope I am following this. What I gather from these scriptures and our discussion so far is that these fowl of the air or evil spirits have become seraphim? How and when did these spirits learn? Is God already at work judging even the spiritual wickedness?

In Christ,
M____

Hi M____,
Thank you for your question.
You ask:

What I gather from these scriptures and our discussion so far is that these fowl of the air or evil spirits have become seraphim. How and when did these spirits learn? Is God already at work judging even the spiritual wickedness?

The answer is that these things are all types of “the things of the heavens themselves.” I gather from the way you form your question that you are not yet aware that “the heavens themselves are our own hearts and minds and that it is within us that the kingdom of God and all of the struggles to purify those “heavens themselves” within that kingdom are taking place. Here are the verses that inform of these spiritual Truths.

Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Heb 9:21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Heb 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

“The heavenly things themselves” are within “the kingdom of God… within you.” The Pharisees demanded of Christ to know when that kingdom would appear, and that is when He gave us this great key to that kingdom; “the kingdom of God is within you.”
That is why, after listing all the various things like earthquakes, famines, the abomination of desolation, the spreading of the gospel to all the earth, “then shall the end come,” that Christ then makes this statement:

Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Let me break in here and pose the question. What does “it is near, even at the doors” mean? Does it mean 2000 years away? Here is what Christ said, and this is what will answer your question about when the heavens are purified:

Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

So the apocalyptic, dispensational approach to scripture is all wet and the is, was and will be character of God’s Word will never pass away, and is just as true today as it was then. “The kingdom of God is within you” if the king of that kingdom is within you.
When Christ answered those demanding Pharisees, He was not speaking for their benefit at that time, but for ours. The day will come when the kingdom of God will come with observation, and at that time “the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of our Lord and His Christ.” But only those who recognize that the kingdom of God has been here within them for the past two thousand years will be rulers in that outward, carnal kingdom.
I hope this all helps you to see that the serpent and the fowls of the air are what must be cleansed within first.

Mat 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

This “blind Pharisee” is the same as “those Jews which believed on Him… but… wanted to kill Him,” of whom we read in Joh 8″

Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Joh 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Joh 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
Joh 8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

These are “those Jews which believed on Him.” This is you and me before we come to see that we are doing the will of our real spiritual father when we believed that we should fight for our God and country and kill our fellow man, or when we simply hated our brother who did not believe as we. Who children were we at that time? Christ leaves no doubt:

Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Joh 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

You could read these words to the orthodox Christians (like you and I were only yesterday it seems) and this is what they say to this very day:

Joh 8:41(b) … Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

… and they will truly “kill you thinking they do God a service.”

Joh 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

Is it their own fault? No, it is not. As Christ tells us in Mat 13:10-16, they simply “cannot hear My Word,” simply because “God has given them eyes that cannot see, and ears that cannot hear.”

Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

So we are all “of our father the devil,” before Christ casts him out of our heavens and “purifies… the things of the heavens themselves” meaning our hearts and minds.
That is when the heavens are purified and the wild beasts we were become domesticated “four beasts in the middle of and round about the throne of God.” That is when “the seraphims cry holy, holy, holy, just as do the cherubims.

Isa 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
Isa 6:2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
Isa 6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, [ is] the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

Ezekiel tells us this:

Eze 1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness [ was] about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
Eze 1:5 Also out of the midst thereof [ came] the likeness of four living creatures. And this [ was] their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
Eze 1:6 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.

These two visions are not contradictory, but are complementary, and in the book of Revelation we are told that the four beasts have six wings like the seraphims and are saying the same thing the seraphims were saying in Isaiah.

Rev 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and [ they were] full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

What it all tells those who are given eyes to see, is that even the things in the heavens will be purged and cleansed, including “that old serpent the devil.”

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The “casting out” of heaven of “that old serpent called the devil” is the casting out of the temple of that man of sin, who is destroy by the brightness of Christ’s coming and by the sword of His mouth.”

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Our bodies are that “temple of God.”

1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [ that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

So we are “the things of the heavens themselves” of which “the patterns of the things of the heavens themselves” speak. And we “are by nature children of wrath… children of disobedience… doing the work of our father the devil.”

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

It is in this condition that Christ comes into our hearts and exposes the seed of the serpent, who is also the man of sin “sitting in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.” This is the man who the Lord destroys with the brightness of His coming… in this generation… this is all fulfilled,” and the heavens are purged and purified and the wild beast becomes the four beasts in the middle of and round about the throne, and the seed of the serpent and his seed become the seraphims crying “holy, holy, holy Lord God Almighty.“
I hope this helps your understanding. I would suggest that you log in to our live ustream Sunday morning Bible studies. They are at 11 A. M. every Sunday except the months with five Sundays. We always take off the fifth Sunday for time with our family and friends. This very subject is exactly what we are covering in great detail at this time.
Your brother in Christ,

Mike